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Even though Eleanor is in North Carolina, requirements for a mortgage today

require lots of paperwork and detail checking wherever you live.  After reading Eleanor's

blog post, it should give you some idea of what we are all dealing with on a daily basis.

If you can react quickly to all requests, it could make your closing happen faster.

Every delay could foster another document or two.

 And try to be patient with the process, it is exasperating for everyone!!


Just give us a copy of everything!If you purchased a home in 2005 and find yourself in the enviable position of purchasing again now... you might be surprised by some of the ways the mortgage process has changed.

Oh Sure... you've heard that it's hard to get a mortgage, but you've got 800 credit scores, a ten year job, cash in the bank (2.5 kids AND a dog!)!  You might think the stories about a tough time getting a mortgage is all about those "other" poor souls.

These days... it doesn't matter how much money you make, what a great deal you got on the house - or if you have 2.5 kids... we want to know everything, and we have to PROVE/Document everything.

AND... just because your loan is approved does NOT mean that we are through asking you for more stuff!  Once a loan is approved by an underwriter, it OFTEN (luck of the draw) goes through a rigorous quality control audit.  The audit can require (in addition to any details the underwriter requested) a full tax return, or an updated credit suppliment, or an additional bank statement.

To understand this a little better, consider the Privacy Acts, and how we now use the Internet to store varying data.  You might say on a loan application that your telephone number is 222.334.4555... and that MIGHT be the right number.  However, when the QC Auditor goes to verify that telephone number as yours (usually online through a service like Reverse Lookup) - they find that it's your CELL number, and therefore not listed.

OR... let's say you applied for your mortgage on January 5th, and provided us with 2 months of bank statements that "drop" on the 20th of each month.  We may have to get a copy of your JANUARY 20th bank statement, even if we have enough money verified to close!

So here's our advice, if you are applying for a mortgage in North Carolina (some states are different):

  • Assume we need everything.  All of your tax returns, all of your bank statements, your paystubs, divorce decrees, IRA account statements... all of it.
  • Assume we need any updated documents you receive after you apply for a mortgage.  If the loan officer says you are approved, don't throw those documents away - you probably have another opportunity for us to ask you for it again!
  • Don't pack financial documents in a box on the moving van unless the loan officer tells you to... just in case. This is Murphy's Law in full force!
Why did we get to this?  Well, the fine State of North Carolina requires me to verify that you have the "ability" to pay the loan back.  It's not the underwriter who is trying to be so difficult, it's not the QC people, and it's not me.  It is the law!

If you are self-employed, and considering a home purchase in North Carolina - please read this!


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Comment balloon 4 commentsTerry & Bonnie Westbrook • February 02 2010 04:59PM


It is so important for buyers, sellers, and REALTORS to understand that the rules have changed! Patience and time are now the key words. Oh, and a sense of humor!

Posted by Lise Howe, Assoc. Broker in DC, MD, VA and attorney in DC (Keller Williams Capital Properties) over 10 years ago

We're dealing in a different realm than the "Stated Income Loans with no Income Verification" era of a few years ago.  I never had a sale using one of those. . .I guess I never will:-)

Posted by Myrl Jeffcoat, Greater Sacramento Real Estate Agent (GreatWest Realty) over 10 years ago

Terry and Bonnie

The playing field has changed so much that I wonder if it will ever get somewhat back to normal again.

Posted by Tom Braatz Waukesha County Real Estate 262-377-1459, Waukesha County Realtor Real Estate agent. SOLD! (Coldwell Banker) over 10 years ago

We did buy a couple of home using the stated income program a few years ago I just hated the self employment documentation. I'm not sure I would do it today to much hassle.

Posted by Terry & Bonnie Westbrook, Westbrook Realty - Grand Rapids Forest Hills MI Re (Westbrook Realty Broker-Owner) over 10 years ago

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